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This week Kait fills the guys in on Taylor Swifts first meeting with THE Meredith Grey, Ellen Pompeo and the impact that had. Then they talk about the newest book about Taylor Swift The Strategic Genius of Taylor Swift. 

Then they go to the Tortured Poets Department with I Hate It Here. Does Kait have to go to secret gardens in her mind to survive this convo? Listen in and find out! 

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