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This week, Kait catches Sam and Jason up on all the Taylor Swift updates. From the secret songs on the Eras Tour Tour (can you believe she finally played Glitch??), they talked the possibility of Taylor making an appearance in Ryan Reynold’s Deadpool, and they even covered the Millennial Pause. 

They the dove into Is It Over Now off 1989 (Taylor’s Version) from the vault. Does Sam have a hot take? Do Sam and Jason think it’s a bop? What are Kait’s theories? Listen in and find out!

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