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This week, Kait catches Sam up on Taylor Swift’s historic VMA wins. They also talked Taylor’s endorsement of Kamala Harris and Donald Trump (and Scooter Braun’s) responses. For the record, we love Taylor Swift…

Then they dive into Taylor’s Lover Era with the lead single ME! What does Sam think of the song? Was it the right choice for a lead single? Listen in and find out!

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