Episode 4 of the Pastor Matt Approved Podcast is finally here—and it was worth the wait! Pastor Matt is joined by special guests Wyatt Morgan and Grace Uljua for a fun, unpredictable, and meaningful conversation.

In this episode, they tackle the important question: Do Taylor Swift lyrics sound like they could come from the book of Lamentations? 🤔 Along the way, they share plenty of laughs, recap the powerful moments from DNOW, and look ahead to what God has in store for Beach Camp 2026.

It’s a little bit of random, a little bit of fun, and a whole lot of Jesus—you don’t want to miss this one.