Taylor Swift has been at the epicenter of the pop culture zeitgeist for the entirety of the year (and more) and it appears that things won't be slowing down any time soon. Kiel Hauck welcomed Evan Sawdey of PopMatters and Yardbarker to the podcast to talk about Swift's growth from singer/songwriter to music business mogul and how she continues to evolve in ways that push the boundaries of what we've seen from a mega pop star. During the conversation, they seek to pinpoint key moments that have led to the ungodly success of the Eras Tour and discuss what comes next - namely, how long can Taylor ride these heights of fame? Listen in!