How do you try to explain Manchester United's abysmal performance against Brentford last week and then where the performance at home to Liverpool came from?

It's been a rocky start to the season by some of the so called top six teams. We look at these and other stories including......

- Chelsea and Tuchel struggling

- Is it set up for a good season for Spurs and Arsenal

- Villa and Gerrard just plodding along

And a bit more..