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TCEP 129: Two Civil Engineering Presidents on the Steps They Took to Success

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In this episode, I talk with Michael O'Grady, P.E., chief growth officer at Terracon, about essential strategies to master change management effectively in 2024. To understand the importance of change in implementing successful strategies, this step-by-step guide will equip you with the knowledge needed to navigate and succeed in times of transition.

***The video version of this episode can be viewed here.***
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Here Are Some of the Questions I Ask Michael:

 	Can you provide a quick overview of TerraCon, including their size and the services they offer?
 	What process did you go through to decide to pursue an MBA, and how has it benefited your career?
 	Did you speak to others who got an MBA to see how it helped them before making your decision?
 	Is making a lateral career move a valuable steppingstone, based on your experience with it?
 	What strategies have you found effective for navigating and leading change?
 	Could you share a couple of things you've learned from navigating change that have helped you or others through similar situations?
 	Is it crucial to have a clear plan and align it with broader goals from the beginning to maintain engagement and prevent disconnection from tasks?

Here Are Some Key Points Discussed in This Episode About How to Master the Art of Change Management:


 	Terracon, founded in 1965 in Iowa, has grown into a firm offering geotechnical engineering, construction materials engineering, environmental services, and facilities engineering. Today, it has 6,000 employees across 170 U.S. locations and is entirely employee-owned.
 	Michael pursued an MBA to gain broader business knowledge while working in strategic planning at Terracon. It improved his leadership skills by enhancing his understanding of strategy, collaboration, and emotional intelligence.
 	Before deciding on pursuing an MBA, individuals often seek insights from others who have completed the program. Many find that approximately 70% of the knowledge gained during the MBA proves valuable in their careers.
 	Taking a lateral career move can be beneficial. For instance, shifting roles within the company provides insights into driving cultural change, which can benefit various areas of business.
 	To navigate and lead change well, engineers and scientists should embrace diverse experiences, which enhance their leadership skills. Managing diverse teams and tackling varied challenges as they progress in their careers will make them better leaders in both technical and business settings.
 	Valuable lessons from navigating change include the significance of patience and taking a long-term view. Effective communication about the reasons for change and its benefits for individuals is essential for success in similar situations.
 	Having a clear plan aligned with broader goals from the start is crucial to maintaining engagement and preventing disconnection from tasks. Breaking down long-term plans into smaller, achievable steps ensures progress remains manageable and keeps teams focused on the overarching objectives.

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About Michael O'Grady, P.E.
Michael O’Grady joined Terracon in 2000. He is the Chief Growth Officer, responsible for directing the strategic growth of the company. This includes expansion of market sectors served, diversification of services, and development of innovative tools and service offerings to drive future growth. He has been a member of the company’s executive operations committee since 2004 and its board of directors since 2013.

During Michael’s more than 23 years with the company, he has served in multiple executive leadership roles and has been instrumental in helping to lead Terracon’s growth and overall strategy during this time,

TCEP 263: How to Master the Art of Change Management as a Civil Engineer

In this episode, we are sharing a panel discussion hosted by the ASCE, where I joined Reuben Zylstra, P.E., P.Eng, from Foothills Bridge, and Carla C. Norris, P.E., from AECOM, to discuss transitioning into a civil engineering manager role.

***The video version of this episode can be viewed here.***
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Here Are Some of the Questions Asked in This Discussion:

 	How did you prepare yourself for transitioning from design to leadership, and what were some resources, mentors, or training programs that assisted you during this journey?
 	How have the transferable skills you learned from your previous roles in ASCE benefited you in your current job or work?
 	How do you communicate your projected career timeline to upper management clearly and positively?
 	If you transition from design to management, what are some key actions you would prioritize in your first three months as a manager?
 	What was one of the biggest challenges you faced when transitioning from a technical engineering role to a managerial position?
 	Is moving into the role of project coordinator the recommended first step for transitioning into a project management position?
 	Are there any books on management skills that you would recommend?
 	Is there a lack of emotional intelligence training for engineers in general, and particularly for managers in the industry?
 	Can you provide a summary of our discussion today?

Here Are Some Key Points Discussed in This Episode About How to Become a Successful Civil Engineering Manager:


 	Moving into civil engineering leadership from design work involves mastering technical skills, project management capabilities (like scoping and budgeting), and effective people leadership. Enhancing public speaking and engaging with diverse groups through committees or mentorship are key steps toward becoming a successful leader in this field.
 	The transferable skills gained from previous roles in ASCE, such as project management, organizational abilities, and effective communication, can greatly benefit individuals in their current jobs or work. These skills enable professionals to effectively manage projects, coordinate with diverse stakeholders, and navigate complex interactions, which are essential for success in civil engineering beyond technical expertise.
 	To communicate your projected career timeline to upper management clearly and positively, begin by initiating open discussions about your career aspirations and goals. Express interest in specific roles or paths within the organization and seek feedback on the skills and expectations needed to advance. This proactive approach demonstrates your readiness and enthusiasm for career growth, facilitating constructive dialogue and alignment with the company's objectives.
 	Transitioning from design to management requires key actions in the first three months. Start by establishing clear communication with your team to promote collaboration. Develop leadership skills like delegation and decision-making. Set strategic goals aligned with organizational objectives for measurable outcomes. These steps will build a strong foundation for successful management in this transition.
 	One of the biggest challenges you'll face when transitioning from a technical engineering role to a managerial position is shifting your focus from technical expertise to leadership and decision-making. It requires letting go of hands-on work and developing new skills like delegation and effective communication.
 	Moving into the role of project coordinator can be a valuable first step for transitioning into a project management position, especially if you're seeking opportunities to assist and learn from experienced project managers. However,

TCEP 262: How to Become a Successful Civil Engineering Manager

In this episode, I talk with Terry Dussault, president of Yellowknife Consulting Services, about improving workplace safety through training and implementing hazard communication and safe work standards to boost productivity and morale. Terry emphasizes the importance of comprehensive safety practices, covering accident prevention with equipment, vehicle safety, and protection from airborne contaminants.

***The video version of this episode can be viewed here.***
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Here Are Some of the Questions I Ask Terry:

 	What steps should supervisors take to enhance workplace safety?
 	How can practical aspects of safety be effectively incorporated into training sessions?
 	In what ways does implementing a hazard communication and safe work standards system impact employee productivity and morale?
 	What factors are driving the increase in hazardous communication, workplace safety issues, and strikes, and how can businesses effectively manage these risks?
 	Given the rising risks, how should businesses address and manage them effectively?
 	How do you recommend employers ensure compliance and safety in the workplace?
 	To ensure compliance and safety regarding powered industrial trucks like forklifts, what recommendations do you have given their prevalent use and inherent risks?
 	What are the essential elements for ensuring compliance and safety in the workplace?
 	How can workplace incidents involving workers being struck by vehicles, trucks, and equipment be prevented, and how can the consequences be minimized?
 	Are workplaces utilizing technology to address the issue of people being struck by vehicles?
 	What measures can employers take to protect workers from airborne contaminants, and how can these actions mitigate financial and legal consequences for the company?
 	What specific biological hazards are present in manufacturing and aerospace workplaces?
 	What advice would you offer to engineers and safety professionals who are starting their careers to ensure workplace safety and environmental compliance?

Here Are Some Key Points Discussed in This Episode About the Best Practices for Implementing Training in Workplace Safety:


 	Supervisors should undergo thorough training on safety protocols and communication skills to enhance workplace safety. Employers should provide ongoing support and follow-up to ensure that safety standards are consistently implemented and maintained.
 	To incorporate practical safety aspects into training sessions, use interactive exercises in the classroom to engage participants and reinforce learning. Follow this with hands-on practice in real job settings, including performance evaluations, to enhance safety skills beyond theory, especially in high-risk industries like construction.
 	Implementing hazard communication and safe work standards positively impacts employee productivity and morale by providing clear safety guidelines and a safer work environment. Workers feel valued and secure in environments with strong safety programs, leading to higher morale and improved productivity.
 	The increase in hazardous communication, workplace safety issues, and strikes is fueled by incidents leading to financial losses, regulatory fines, injuries, property damage, or security breaches. To manage these risks, businesses should prioritize safety improvements, implement robust hazard communication programs, conduct regular safety training, and foster a safety-conscious culture where employees actively participate in safety initiatives.
 	Implementing a robust safety program with incident and near-miss reporting helps companies identify and address risks early, preventing serious incidents like lead exposure. Regular site inspections and proactive safety measures not only ensure w...

TCEP 261: The Best Practices for Implementing Training in Workplace Safety

In this episode, I talk with Steven M. Rienks, P.E., PMP, director of engineering at American Surveying & Engineering, about the intricate world of the ASCE Code of Ethics, exploring its historical roots, pivotal importance, and its significant influence on the realm of civil engineering.

***The video version of this episode can be viewed here.***
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Here Are Some of the Questions I Ask Steven:

 	What led to your interest in the American Society of Civil Engineers Code of Ethics?
 	Can you give a summary of how the ASCE Code of Ethics has developed and changed over the years?
 	How do you view the importance of the preamble of the ASCE Code of Ethics in guiding your ethical practices throughout your career?
 	How has the preamble of the ASCE Code of Ethics influenced your career?
 	When you reflect on the ASCE Code of Ethics and its impact on your career, do you prioritize the well-being of the five key stakeholders affected by your work?
 	How do you manage the diverse interests of various stakeholders to ensure the best possible outcomes as a civil engineer?
 	Do you think any of these areas are sometimes overlooked in engineering when prioritizing public health, safety, and welfare while considering clients, employers, peers, and the environment?
 	What are typical ethical challenges or dilemmas that civil engineers encounter?
 	How important do you believe the ASCE complaint form is for maintaining professional integrity in addressing ethical concerns that may arise in the field?
 	If a genuine ethical issue arises after submitting a complaint, would you report it to the appropriate local board for further action?
 	When encountering ethical dilemmas, where do you suggest professionals seek assistance or guidance, particularly in complex situations?
 	When you encounter an ethical complaint, should you understand how the company handles it from a human resources perspective?
 	How does the ASCE Code of Ethics support engineers in their professional growth and development?
 	What advice would you give to new aspiring civil engineers starting their careers?

Here Are Some Key Points Discussed in This Episode About Implementing the ASCE Code of Ethics in Professional Practices:


 	Steven's interest in the American Society of Civil Engineers Code of Ethics was sparked when he obtained and displayed version two of the code, received in 1980, in his offices for several years. Upon discovering a more recent version on the ASCE website presented in a simpler format, Steven reached out to ASCE to inquire about updating the code.
 	The ASCE Code of Ethics has evolved over the years, with the first version dating back to 1914, followed by a version from 1980, and the most recent one in 2020; however, he cannot provide specific details on the changes and development of the code since he was not involved in that committee.
 	Steven values the preamble of the ASCE Code of Ethics as it emphasizes essential principles such as creating safe infrastructure, treating everyone with respect and fairness, addressing societal needs, and improving quality of life, which have significantly guided his ethical practices throughout his career.
 	The preamble of the ASCE Code of Ethics has greatly influenced Steven's career by emphasizing principles like creating safe infrastructure, respecting individuals, addressing societal needs, and enhancing quality of life, and guiding his ethical decisions and conduct.
 	When reflecting on the ASCE Code of Ethics and its impact on his career, Steven prioritizes the well-being of the five key stakeholders affected by engineering work: society, the natural and built environment, the engineering profession, clients and employers, and peers.

TCEP 260: Implementing the ASCE Code of Ethics in Professional Practices

In this episode, I talk with Dena Prastos, AIA, founder and CEO of Indigo River, about her journey in the AEC field and her specialization in waterfront architecture. She discusses the challenges she faced as a woman in a male-dominated industry and the impact of growing up in Alaska on her career choices. Dena also talks about the opportunities and challenges in the Middle East and the future of waterfront architecture in the face of climate change.

***The video version of this episode can be viewed here.***
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Here Are Some of the Questions I Ask Dena:

 	How did growing up in Alaska shape your decisions regarding waterfront development, given its environmental influence?
 	What challenges have you faced as a woman in founding and growing your business, and what advice would you offer to other women aiming to advance in their careers?
 	Can you discuss the opportunities you've encountered in waterfront projects in the Middle East, and how you became involved in them?
 	Can you enhance your communication skills by working in challenging or unfamiliar environments, such as different locations and atmospheres?
 	What advice do you have for architects and engineers looking to start or grow their businesses, based on your experience as a founder?
 	What upcoming trends or technologies should individuals interested in waterfront architecture consider for the industry's future?
 	What communication tips have proven effective for managing waterfront projects involving multiple parties like agencies, clients, and consultants?
 	How does diversity within your team contribute to the success and innovation of dynamic waterfront projects?
 	How does encountering individuals with diverse backgrounds and perspectives enhance excitement, interest, and open-mindedness for all involved?

Here Are Some Key Points Discussed in This Episode About How Emerging Tech Is Revolutionizing Waterfront Architecture:


 	Growing up in Alaska, especially in Dena's environment, shaped her approach to waterfront development. Experiencing the rugged landscape firsthand taught her to prioritize sustainability and resilience while integrating advanced engineering and indigenous knowledge.
 	In navigating business as a woman, you will inevitably encounter biases and limited opportunities. To overcome these challenges and thrive, it's crucial to maintain confidence, actively seek out mentors for guidance, and assert yourself in various professional settings. Do not hesitate to challenge existing norms, stay true to your authentic self, and embrace diverse perspectives as valuable assets on your path to success.
 	Exploring Middle East waterfront projects provides valuable insights into engineering and culture. It starts with a desire to work abroad, leading to overseas assignments. Being involved with the Army Corps of Engineers offers regulatory insights beneficial for stateside waterfront projects, highlighting the value of diverse growth opportunities.
 	Working in diverse environments enhances communication skills. In architecture, clarity is vital, and such experiences emphasize the importance of being concise. Dealing with cultural differences encourages empathy and adaptability in communication. Using tools like sketches or body language becomes crucial for effective communication. Exposure to different environments sharpens communication skills for conveying ideas effectively.
 	For architects and engineers looking to start or grow their businesses, valuing relationships is crucial. Cultivating meaningful partnerships and mentorships provides valuable support and opportunities. Prioritize nurturing existing connections, ensuring alignment with the company's mission and values. Investing in team members is essential,

TCEP 129: Two Civil Engineering Presidents on the Steps They Took to Success

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