In episode 42 of TDF Talks, Lucy has a conversation with interior designer, educator, serial renovator, reality TV star and Mum of two, Jenna Densten.

Jenna is perhaps best known for her stint on The Block alongside her husband Josh... but, that was WAY back in 2011, and Jenna has done so much since then! These days, Jenna runs her design consultancy, Bicker Design, along with Design School, offering accredited courses in Interior Decoration. Recently, she's launched a brand new Online Masterclass!

Lucy sat down with Jenna last month to chat about life after reality TV, the highs and lows of renovating, juggling business ownership with parenthood, and everything in between.

Find links and other show notes at https://thedesignfiles.net/podcast.