Clare is joined for the second time by the knowledgeable and insightful Sophia Marsden-Smith for a conversation that explores the big ideas of Arthur Miller's pivotal play, 'The Crucible', and Rosalie Ham's dark novel, 'The Dressmaker'. Together, Sophia and Clare explore the elements of Australian Gothic, in the case of 'The Dressmaker' and the historical allegory of Miller's play, and the underlying fear that is inherent in the communities of both texts. Fundamentally, these texts are important because they reveal the truth of human experience, and how individuals, and how women, seek to claim their agency in a world that denies them liberty. 

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