For our first episode, we launch into a conversation with Erik Korsvik Østergaard and Timm Urschinger in a topic that is very close to our day to day transformation work. Erik is a bestselling author of "Teal Dots in an Orange World", where he brings a very practical and pragmatic view of Teal coming from an orange perspective.Join us as we explore together with Timm and Erik what available thinking models and ideas are out there to adapt to a fast-changing world.