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Once again it's time for The Talent Family as Sally (sans Katie) talks to Stef Sadler about his present-day dystopian workplace zines. Topics include: chef portrayal in popular culture, how much air goes into coffee, high voltage in the home, whether or not Stef caused the pandemic, and of course, Paul McCarthy vs Paul McCartney.

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