Silicon Valley startup companies like Preventive, Orchid, and Nucleus all share a common goal: giving parents the “perfect” baby. Preventative is pursuing embryo editing, while Orchid and Nucleus Genomics use screening to tell parents which of their embryos — meaning their biological children — to discard.

The Spectator P.M. Podcast hosts Ellie Gardey Holmes and Lyrah Margo criticize the companies and CEOs that are trying to normalize genetically modifying embryos. Ellie and Lyrah explain the ethical harms of embryo editing and emphasize the thousands of lives that are at stake behind this evil practice. Tune in to hear their discussion!