This episode is one of those moments that proves nothing ever goes exactly as planned. But sometimes that's exactly how things turn out for the best. Today's conversation was supposed to be smooth sailing, but we had some technical difficulties during this interview that it cut into our conversation. But we're not here to dwell on the glitches. Instead, we're here to bring you a real, raw conversation with two incredible individuals who have both served in the military and are still living with purpose after the uniform comes off. So with little a little bit of a bumpy start, I'm excited to sit down with doc, Chris Aliano and Todd Neibauer. Uh, two men I have deep respect for and close connections with.