Jay sits down with Terry LeBlanc of the Mi'kmaq nation and talks theology, creation and how westerners can appropriately join in the indigenous exodus that is taking place.

Terry is the founder and co-leader of Naiits, an indigenous theological learning community based in North America, Australia and the Philippines. To learn more about what they do go here: https://www.naiits.com

Jay also promotes Earthed: E Ihowā, an event happening November 1-3 at Ōwae Marae in Waitara. You learn about that and register here: https://www.facebook.com/events/466125863931823/