Portia: And so what would happen if we saw other people, other believers, as family? Like people who still have my love - and I'm not saying passivity, you know what I'm saying? Love still corrects. We still corrected her and told her "No, you don't put poop in Mom's bed."

Jasmine: But I bet you didn't end there. I bet you weren't just like "You don't put poop in the bed and I don't love you anymore." You were like "You don't put poop in the bed. I love you, but don't put poop in the bed."