Mark is joined by a fellow podcaster and all round super smart person Michaela Greiler. Michaela is Mark’s first guest with a PhD, so naturally, Mark wants to know as much as possible about the work Michaela has done. In addition to this, the pair discuss the power of modelling when strategising automation, how teams can get the most out of code reviews and what it’s like being a podcast host.

Michaela also gives us a taste of her upcoming talk at TestBash Brighton 2020