The prime minister-in-waiting now seems unlikely to be tested in any leadership contest - former minister Al Carns joins Sam Tarry and Marcus Jones to discuss how risky this could be. We get a stark warning of the state of UK’s defence, and Al Carns suggests some ways to remedy this. Also, Neil Duncan-Jordan MP warns how Artificial Intelligence is undermining society, and why nimble legislation is needed to keep up with the pace of AI.

13.58 - Al Carns, MP - The five tests for the next prime minister

29.30 - Al Carns, MP - How best to guarantee UK’s security at this unstable time

50.47 - Neil Duncan-Jordan, MP - The impact of AI on society

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