In this conversation, Lis and I explore a range of topics, including personal journeys from the entertainment industry to healthcare, experiences of sexualization and objectification, the impact of social media on mental health, and the challenges faced within the healthcare system. They discuss the importance of empathy, the complexities of privilege, and the systemic issues that affect both the entertainment and healthcare industries. The conversation underscores the importance of raising awareness and fostering change in societal attitudes and structures.