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In "Things Gon Change", episode 2 of the Up to It podcast, host Jamal and Zion delve deeper into the topic of change as they discuss Zion's experience with dropping out of college. They explore the emotions, fears, and doubts that came with that decision, and how Zion's father, Jamal, responded to the news. Listeners get a glimpse into the conversation that took place between the father and son duo, and the lessons learned from navigating a significant change in life.

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