Our legend of a guest this week is Kassi O'Connor from Glu Mobile. Kassi has spent well over a decade in the industry carving out a niche for herself as the bridge between internal and external development. Beyond having the most positive energy of any guest we've ever had, Kassi is a wealth of knowledge about how to best incorporate external partners into your development process. We talk about how Machine Learning will impact external dev, XDS, excel hacks, and Kassi's days as a competitive Marion Kart player. Kassi is a true 'force for good' in the industry and a great guest. It's worth noting that the audio is a little spotty at times on this episode (the joys of recording at home), but we wanted to make sure it still got out as the content is so great. Enjoy!