Energy descent is not a topic that everyone is talking about in the streets or coffee shops. But I think it should be on the tips of everyone’s tongues.

As it would happen, my guest this week is Michael O’Connell and we talk about what we think may happen when the finite energy resources that we depend upon today to fuel our civilisation start to become a little more scarcer. Mick has had first hand experience in East Timor and has a good idea about what makes life worthwhile when you have little in the way of resources and the absence of a consumer culture.

We also talk about food security and touch on sustainable living back here in Australia.  It seems that I owe him a few iced cold home brews!

This is a really interesting conversation about how far western society has to fall compared to other nations, and what basic things could make our lives much more fulfilling.

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So did Mick and I get it right, or are we just two old coots who are way off the mark?