Welcome to Tactical Security! Where we argue cybersecurity practices from a technical and managerial standpoint. In this episode we are discussing the human attack surface (THAS) with Mz Bat former NASA security analyst and currently a Security Director at Krebs Stamos Group and ethical hacker. Mz Bat wrangled in a surprise guest, Chris Krebs! Chris is the former Director of CISA until fired by Tweet. During this podcast we discussed disinformation, and best practices to protect users with our guests and how it applies to The Human Attack Surface. Music was created for this podcast by y3t1.