That Gray Area

On the latest episode Vanessa and Erinn are discussing what we’ve they've away from the past 16 months. 

In it they talk about: 
1: How everyone is having a unique pandemic experience,  and how we can honor the differences. 
2. How isolation (or lack of it) has changed them. 
3. Firsts! It seems the older people get, the less firsts they have, and why everyone should keep challenging themselves to try new things. 
4. How fucking amazing it is to learn something new - at any age. 
5. What’s next for the podcast and how they'd love for YOU to be a part of it.

Also join them on Instagram @that.gray.area to get in on the discussion of all things women and sex and aging, Pinky swear, it's REALLY fun!

However you get there - let's join each other in That Gray Area! 

The world is full of parenting books, magazines, blogs and social media pages.  If you're looking for help raising kids, it's out there! 

But what if you're done raising kids day to day, or never had kids to raise in the first place?

That advice is still good ....for you!

Vanessa and Erinn take some parenting advice and turn it on themselves.  It makes sense to give  kids love, rituals and boundaries, but do we, can we, apply those same rules to ourselves?

It's a simple concept and a lot of fun to think about.  Join them as they figure out how to raise themselves!

Also join them on Instagram @that.gray.area to get in on the discussion of all things women and sex and aging, Pinky swear, it's REALLY fun!

However you get there - let's join each other in That Gray Area! 

Erinn and Vanessa are exploring sexual empowerment - what it means and how it changes as we age and evolve.

Do the words sex and power, especially when it comes to women, get a bad rap?  Is sexual power tied to our self esteem?  How do we figure out what we want and then have the courage to ask for it?  Is aging and sexuality win-win or a catch 22? 

Join them as they hash it and and also join them on Instagram @that.gray.area to get in on the discussion of all things women and sex and aging, Pinky swear, it's REALLY fun!

However you get there - let's join each other in That Gray Area! 

How often do you suck your stomach in? Do you even realize you're doing it?

Who knew that women sucking their stomachs in is, apparently "a thing!"

Think about this, the  woman standing next to you in line at the grocery store or staring at you through your Zoom meeting this morning,  probably has her stomach sucked in.

Is she ashamed or embarrassed at her partners touch?  Does she feels bad in when she looks in the mirror?  Did her mom tell her to suck it in? Does she aspire to a standard of beauty she'll spend years trying to achieve only to feel shitty when she can't?

Why do we women do it?  Especially when most women have a pot belly of some kind that feels so good to touch, hug  and squeeze!?!

Let's talk about it  - WITH our bellies pleasantly out if you please. 

Join Erinn and  Vanessa on Instagram @that.gray.area to join the discussion on all things women and aging, Pinky swear, it's REALLY fun!

However you get there - let's join each other in That Gray Area!

The term "Male Gaze" was coined back in the 70's by film critic Laura Mulvey, but the sexual objectification of women in television, movies, advertising, comics and more is just as important a topic to talk about today -  in good ol' 2021.

Vanessa and Erinn unravel their views on sexual imagery, how the male dominated view of women in media has affected them, and where the line gets crossed between sexual appreciation and sexual objectification.

It's a big topic with lots of layers, but they're brining their own brand of humor and questioning to try and figure it all out right along with you!

Join them on Instagram @that.gray.area to join the discussion on all things women and aging, Pinky swear, it's REALLY fun!

However you get there - let's join each other in That Gray Area!

As we say goodbye to the craziness that was 2020, Vanessa and Erinn want to take a few minutes to reflect and reset.

They talk about what they've learned in 2020 - and what lessons they hope to take with them into the new year.

Join them on Instagram @that.gray.area to join the discussion on all things women and aging, Pinky swear, it's REALLY fun!

However you get there - let's join each other in That Gray Area!

Does your sense of self worth and a certain number on the scale go hand in hand? 
Do you "have" to fit into a certain size to feel good in life?

If this sounds familiar, you, like many people, are caught up in the "Diet Culture" mindset.

Diet culture is a belief system that values weight, shape, and size over physical, emotional and spiritual  well-being.

Erinn and Vanessa have both experienced this kind of thinking throughout their lives and on this episode they are taking a deep dive on their journeys towards self love, body acceptance and ditching the diet culture outlook on life.

Join them on Instagram @that.gray.area to join the discussion on all things women and aging, Pinky swear, it's REALLY fun!

However you get there - let's join each other in That Gray Area!

Vanessa and Erinn break down the highs, the lows, the wins and the losses of online dating over 45. Filled with good advice, a cautionary tale or two, and whole lotta humor, they dive right in on what to expect in this brave new world of dating.

Weather you're thinking of dipping a toe in the dating pool or have mastered the skills of the perfect online profile this episode will either encourage you to "swipe right" on love or make you run to the arms of your partner (or your dog), grateful you don't have to deal with any of this bull$*t anymore! Either way, enjoy!

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Join them on Instagram @that.gray.area to join the discussion on all things women and aging, Pinky swear, it's REALLY fun!

And if you prefer *watching* them talk about all the wonderful things being a woman and mid-life has to offer (and there are SO many) you can watch That Gray Area on YouTube Here

However you get there - let's join each other in That Gray Area! 

Double Standards can take on many forms, but today Vanessa and Erinn are talking about beauty double standards.  Why are men silver foxes but many women dye their locks 'till they drop?

What about shaving, makeup, body ideals are more!?

Which aspects of a human beings standards of beauty are hardwired into their DNA and which are a product of conditioning?

Let's get the conversation started and see why what's good for the goose ain't always good for the gander!

Join them on Instagram @that.gray.area to join the discussion on all things women and aging, Pinky swear, it's REALLY fun!

And if you prefer *watching* them talk about all the wonderful things being a woman and mid-life has to offer (and there are SO many) you can watch That Gray Area on YouTube Here

However you get there - let's join each other in That Gray Area! 

It's good to be proud of ourselves - but when does pride cross the line into bragging, and is that line different for men and women?

Erinn and Vanessa are questioning why so many women accept self promotion in men as "confidence" but often see it in themselves  as "vanity."

Science backs this up - but maybe it's time to question that and flip the script!  Maybe it's time to Toot Your Horn (beep! beep!) and not feel weird about it. 

Join them on Instagram @that.gray.area to join the discussion on all things women and aging, Pinky swear, it's REALLY fun!

And if you prefer *watching* them talk about all the wonderful things being a woman and mid-life has to offer (and there are SO many) you can watch That Gray Area on YouTube Here

However you get there - let's join each other in That Gray Area!