Humans are amazing at adapting, it may be our most defining trait, and something that's going to be all the more important starting now. The environment around us that has been fixed and stable, is now shifting drastically.
Wildfires are becoming more common, as is flooding and drought. Things that in the summer of 2026, have become all the more apparent, and are only just the start.
When comparing the two elephants on the global stage, China and the US are taking very different courses. China is speaking, and starting to act, in ways to specifically call out how to adapt to this changing dynamic. While the US has no national adaptation plan and has stripped climate change from its major strategic documents.
Alice Hill is the David Rubinstein Senior Fellow for Energy and the Environment at the Council on Foreign Relations, where her work focuses on catastrophic risk, including climate change. She joins this episode to talk about her article, Extreme Weather Will Upend U.S.-China Competition, and explain how the two super powers are approaching what's here, and what's to come.
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(00:00) - Intro essay: adaptation as humanity's greatest feature
(02:38) - Why "surviving" isn't the goal โ thriving, and introducing Alice Hill
(06:07) - Meet Alice Hill: catastrophic risk and climate at CFR
(08:10) - China's self-washing solar panels vs. wildfire soot
(11:37) - Trump exits climate policy while China runs a 15-year plan
(13:48) - $55B in Chinese losses, ~$250B combined US-China damage
(15:33) - Sponge cities and moving water south to north
(20:01) - JR's storm, passive house design, and building for changing risk
(26:53) - Climate resilience as a strategic advantage
(29:47) - Gross Ecosystem Product: putting a price on nature
(35:39) - Why humans discount catastrophic risk
(38:12) - The six-minute storm and early warning systems
(43:07) - The Arctic hit 95ยฐF
(44:56) - Three wishes, data centers, and the next "Rachel Carson moment"
(52:19) - Prioritizing investment and managing climate migration