It's impossible to surrender to someone you don't trust because you're admitting their way is better than yours. Trusting someone is seldom about a big event, it's a million little instances. God though, in one grand display on the cross, has eternally proved his love. We also talk about the power of self-sacrifice/redemptive themes in media.

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Music by: Nu Skiffle Brigade used under creative commons license