Adam welcomes Joe Kutner to the show. Joe is a Software Architect at Salesforce Heroku. He's been writing and speaking about the 12 factor app for years and continually evaluating the practices at Salesforce Heroku.

Adam & Joe discuss the misconceptions of the 12 factor app and the gaps between the 12 factor app and continuous delivery requirements. This is really a follow up discussion to the earlier episodes on the 12.1 Factor app.

Joe Kutner's Links

• Cloud Native Build Packs

Adam Hawkins' Links

• Small Batches #5: The 12 Factor App
• The 12.1 Factor App: Config
• The 12.1 Factor App: Logs
• The 12.1 Factor App: Dev-Prod Parity