What if the key to long-term recovery isn't just clinical treatment, but a deep, immersive dive into the 12-step model? In this episode, Major John Donovan (Ret.) sits down with Alex Curtis from The Retreat in Minnesota to discuss their unique, non-clinical approach that has helped over 34,000 people reclaim their lives.

We pull back the curtain on how a peer-led model focused on education, community, and the Big Book, is achieving a 76% sobriety rate one year post-program. Whether you are in recovery yourself, supporting a loved one, or a professional in the field, this conversation offers a powerful perspective on how to move from just "getting clean" to building a lifelong foundation of recovery.

The Retreat | Improving the quality of life for individuals, families and communities affected by alcohol and drug dependency