Threadguy sits down with Compound founder Robert Leshner, the OG DeFi builder who was literally in the group chat where the word DeFi was coined back in 2018. Leshner walks through the Compound exploit lore, why he left to build Superstate, and where he lands on Hyperliquid's RWA perps. He gets into how every product gets a Napster era before grandma uses it, the $200M KelpDAO hack that scared TradFi institutions into calling him within 12 hours, why the token-equity overhang traces back to the Gensler reign of terror, and his optimistic wrap on crypto's next 12 months.