Larry Olsen welcomes Dr. Roger Gerard—renowned author, former Chief Culture Officer of Gundersen Health System, and a rare leader who bridges neuroscience, systems thinking, and real-world organizational change. In this episode, they explore how fear subtly drives dysfunction—and how leaders can break the cycle by creating cultures grounded in psychological safety, curiosity, and courageous clarity. Dr. Gerard’s insights aren’t theoretical—they’re hard-won from decades on the front lines of high-stakes, high-performance environments. If you’re serious about shifting behavior and unlocking your team’s true potential, this conversation is essential.