A couples therapist, Susan Campbell wrote a book called the couple's Journey. In it, she states there are 5 stages in relationships. Today, Tonya and I give our interpretation of the 5 stages and do a deep dive into our own experience with it thus far and how we have gotten to where we are today. After just celebrating our 14th anniversary yesterday, this was a perfect topic for us to cover, as well as share some of our darkest and hardest challenges and what it has taken to get where we are now in our marriage. This was probably our best episode yet, and we believe that if you can establish where you are in the 5 stages, and figure out what it would take to get to the next stage it would change your marriage forever.