[0:00-2:01] Intro.

[2:31-5:31] Alex and Ivan talk about their upbringing in Georgia, Haiti and Tuscon, Arizona!

[5:32-8:22] Alex talks high school influences and his discovery of anthropology at Howard.

[8:27-11:00] Ivan discusses early inspiration in the performing arts and discovering PR and advertising.

[11:01-13:04] Alex discusses Howard University and the value of HBCUs.

[13:10-15:58] Ivan discusses life after college and being inspired to jump into copywriting.

[16:00-21:07] Alex's switch into advertising.

[21:14-27:43] Ivan's experience in ad school and moving to NYC.

[27:52-34:56] Alex's work at 72andSunny and developing diversity initiatives.

[35:30-40:20] Ivan's take on diversity and agency culture.

[41:30-46:18] Alex and Ivan's thoughts about the future of representation in advertising.

[48:30-51:13] Outro.