From the release of Pamela Anderson's Netflix documentary Pamela: A Love Story, through to the online response to Madonna's 'new face', the discourse on ageing women has made a resurgence. In this episode, Lucy and Sophia talk beauty standards, plastic surgery, and ageing in Hollywood - from older celebrities looking younger, to younger celebrities looking older.

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Soundbites from this episode:

Pamela Anderson on ageing - an interview with MSNBC

Madonna on ageism

Goldie Hawn as Elise Elliott in the iconic film The First Wives Club (1996)

Articles referenced:

Madonna's Face Is Not Subversive - Jessica DeFino (The Unpublishables)

A book Lucy loves on the theory of desire capital - Belly of the Beast: The Politics of Anti-Fatness as Anti-Blackness by Da'Shaun L. Harrison