In this episode of the Hypernest Podcast, we dive deep into the future of Web3 and DeFi within Telegram's ecosystem. From Pavel's investment roots and Telegram's iconic 2018 ICO to building TAC as an EVM-compatible Layer 1 chain seamlessly integrated with TON blockchain, this episode uncovers how TAC abstracts complexities like bridging and gas fees for effortless user experiences. Discover why Telegram's 1 billion users could spark true mass adoption, the magic of Telegram Mini Apps (TMAs) for DeFi protocols like Curve and Morpho, and innovative trends in yields, vaults, and gamified finance. Pavel shares his vision for Telegram as a super app rivaling Revolut and Robinhood, plus advice for Web3 builders on prioritizing UX and distribution over hype. In this episode of the HyperNest Podcast, we sit down with Alex Shevchenko, CEO of Aurora and a crypto OG since 2015, to dive deep into how AI agents are transforming blockchain, DeFi, and beyond, with insights from NEAR Protocol's cutting-edge innovations. Whether you're a Web3 founder, DeFi enthusiast, or AI curious, this conversation unpacks how agentic tech could revolutionize economies democratically and efficiently.