As AI models become more powerful, their appetite for energy is soaring — creating a high-stakes tension between technological progress and sustainability. 

In this episode, Lucia Tian, Google’s Head of Clean Energy & Decarbonization Technologies, helps us navigate the race to secure the carbon-free power that will fuel the next generation of intelligence.

We explore Google’s innovative approach to this challenge, from pioneering partnerships in advanced geothermal and next-gen nuclear, to using AI itself to stabilize and optimize the grid. Lucia paints a vivid picture of how these breakthroughs can accelerate a net-zero future while keeping the world’s most demanding computing systems online.

It’s a look at the energy system behind the AI revolution, and the people working to make it both powerful and sustainable.