Most no-code tools give you an MVP. Woz wants to give you a business.

On this episode of Agentic, I was joined by Ben Collins and Brad Eckert, co-founders of Woz, an AI platform that lets anyone build real, scalable web and mobile products with zero coding. Think Shopify, but for launching operational SaaS startups.

If you’re in the early innings of building something in AI, especially if you’re figuring things out from first principles—let’s chat.

Connect with us here:

1. Woz: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/withwoz/

2. Ben Collins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bentcollins/

3. Brad Eckert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chefeckert/

4. George Bandarian: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian

5. ⁠⁠Untapped Ventures:⁠ ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures

They break down:

• Why shipping your MVP is just 1% of the journey—and what the other 99% really looks like

• The difference between vibe coding, AI engineering, and real startup durability

• What they learned from going through Y Combinator (twice), taking 80+ investor meetings, and raising a breakout seed round.

• Why automation means more software businesses and not fewer jobs

00:00 Trailer

01:07 Introduction

02:29 Empowering entrepreneurs

04:27 Woz's Vision

10:32 Success stories

13:38 The origin story

15:27 AI code generation evolution

17:29 Technical insights

19:44 The Role of AI

30:31 Job markets

31:20 Entrepreneurial mindset shift

32:56 Business building challenges

34:54 Creating a successful platform

37:45 Y Combinator experience

43:41 Fundraising insights

49:29 Advice for AI Entrepreneurs

56:31 Closing