Traditional SEO is changing. In the AI-driven search era, users aren't just clicking blue links anymore—they're asking conversational engines like ChatGPT, Claude, and Gemini for direct answers. If your brand isn’t showing up in third-party citations across authoritative news sites, your business is effectively missing out on the future of digital discovery. Noah Greenberg has the exact distribution playbook to help you reverse-engineer Generative Engine Optimization (GEO) and dramatically scale your brand's AI visibility.

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In this episode of The GEO Blueprint Podcast, we sit down with Noah Greenberg, CEO of Stacker, to look inside how LLMs scrape the web, choose which brands to reference, and process authority. Noah breaks down why earned media is the single biggest driver for AI visibility, how to turn your brand's owned insights into unmissable original data, and how bootstrapped founders can dominate distribution in a saturated market.

• The Blueprint of Modern Syndication: How brands can transition from self-promotional lists into genuine newsroom-grade content that thousands of authoritative publishers want to run for free.

• Decoding the 239% AI Citation Spike: What it practically means to map your content across a massive digital surface area to drastically shift the probabilities of an LLM recommending your business.

• The Wild West of AI Search: Why the lack of direct guidelines from OpenAI leaves the field wide open for independent research, experimentation, and major visibility wins.

• The CMO's Order of Priority: A strategic, realistic advice guide for marketing leaders on establishing a baseline, playing the long game, and testing earned media vectors.

• What AI Cites (And What It Ignores): Why standard "common knowledge" content gets zero credit from conversational models, and how original data or custom surveys unlock automated citations.

• The Saturated Business Trap: Why modern AI tools like vibe coding have made launching a startup effortlessly easy—but scaling distribution harder than ever before.

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/noahg/

• Website: https://stacker.com/

  
  

00:00 - Intro

01:03 - How Stacker works — publishers get content free, brands pay

04:29 - 239% more AI citations — what that actually means for GEO

10:36 - Bigger news sites = more likely AI cites you

11:46 - CMO advice — GEO priority list in order

15:13 - How Stacker directly helps brands with AI visibility

16:57 - Why Noah posts on LinkedIn every day

18:52 - Should founders create content on LinkedIn?

20:36 - Fulfilling demand vs creating demand — the YouTube lesson

22:09 - Think of your LinkedIn as a mini media company

23:28 - Make money in 6 months or it's over — what that forced

26:54 - BuzzFeed and Vice — what they did wrong

28:44 - How Noah started and built Stacker over 9 years

30:49 - What content AI actually cites — and what it never cites

34:23 - Original content is the thread across everything in AI search

35:59 - Has AI made it easier or harder to start a business?

38:24 - How founders can win distribution in this new age

41:46 - Should every company hire journalists and economists?

43:39 - Why Noah hired a full-time head of insights

44:00 - PESO model — owned, earned, paid, shared explained

46:01 - Biggest content mistake Noah has made

47:18 - People hate AI for what they're passionate about

49:32 - What's your LLM of choice?

51:03 - Will there be one AI winner or will it stay scattered?

52:12 - What's your take on ads in AI?

53:57 - What I should have asked you — top of mind on GEO

56:07 - Outro

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