“My name is Andrew Shepherd, and I *am* the President!” To wrap up our season 3, Frank returns to talk about the Aaron Sorkin penned film starring Michael Douglas and Annette Bening, The American President (1995).

As a self-professed fan of Sorkin, this film has special importance to me. Prepare yourself for a lot of The West Wing references and callbacks. We talk about liberal fantasy, the chemistry between the two leads, and Frank talks about needing to be in a certain mood to appreciate this film’s idealism.

What would you rate this movie on a scale from 1 to 10?

TW: this episode was recorded before the mass shootings in Buffalo and Uvalde. There are mentions of gun control throughout the episode.