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How much do BCBAs really need to know about the brain?

Penina sits down with BCBA, psychotherapist, and yoga teacher Matthew Lunsford to explore the fascinating connection between neuroanatomy and behavior.

From understanding the role of the amygdala to practical breathing exercises for regulation, this conversation brings a whole new perspective to the science of behavior.

Discussion Points:

• Matthew’s unique journey to becoming a BCBA and why he integrates multiple disciplines.
• How brain injuries and neurological differences influence behavior beyond environmental factors.
• The role of the prefrontal cortex, amygdala, and nervous system in regulation and learning.
• Recognizing when a child is in “fight, flight, or freeze” mode and how to respond effectively.
• Practical strategies: breathing exercises, mindfulness, and grounding tools to restore homeostasis.

Matthew Lunsford shares how his background in psychology, special education, social work, and yoga therapy informs his work as a BCBA. He explains why BCBAs must look beyond the environment and consider the neurological roots of behavior, using case examples like working with clients with traumatic brain injury (TBI).

Together, Penina and Matthew highlight the importance of teaching self-regulation skills, understanding when the brain is in a fear state, and using evidence-based calming strategies. Matthew also introduces practical tools such as the 4-8-8 breathing technique and the 5-4-3-2-1 grounding exercise that BCBAs can use with clients to bring the brain back to balance.

Matthew Lunsford is a BCBA with a Master’s in Psychology, an MSW in Clinical Social Work, and certification in Special Education. He is also a licensed teacher, clinical supervisor, and yoga instructor. Matthew’s unique blend of expertise allows him to approach behavior through multiple lenses, integrating neuroanatomy, psychotherapy, and holistic practices into his work with clients.

Time Stamps:

00:00 Matthew’s background and journey to becoming a BCBA

06:17 Integrating psychology, social work, and education into ABA

08:05 A tour of the brain: key structures and functions

10:22 Why BCBAs need neuroanatomy knowledge in practice

11:57 Case study: working with a client with TBI

15:07 The prefrontal cortex, amygdala, and nervous system explained

18:59 Recognizing fear responses and when not to teach

20:50 – Signs of overload: excessive stimming and regulation cues

25:58 – Breathing techniques for regulation (4-8-8 method)

Links for the Guest:

Connect with Matthew Lunsford on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-lunsford-3934ba107/

Ready to deepen your understanding of behavior by looking at the brain behind it?

Tune in to the full episode for practical tools and powerful insights from Matthew Lunsford.