When Rom Met Com

The Apartment (1960) with Charlie Vero Martin


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Jack and Nora are joined by actor, comedian, and writer Charlie Vero Martin to discuss #25 on Vanity Fair’s list of the 42 Best Romantic Comedies of All Time: The Apartment. In this episode, Jack finally gets to talk about his favorite romcom, Charlie insists that every drama is really just a bad comedy, and if Mr. Sheldrake has zero haters, then Nora is dead. Hide your spare key, grab a strainer and/or tennis racquet, and let’s find out if that’s the way it crumbles (cookie-wise)!


Topics include:

  • Rental prices in New York City
  • “Baxters” in romcom writing 
  • The ins and outs of spaghetti preparation

Mysteries we still haven’t solved:

  • Who would we cast if The Apartment was being made today?

Content Warning: A quick heads up from us— there are several brief references to (but no actual discussions of) a plot point involving attempted suicide, and one mention of abortion.


Where to find us:

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  • Follow Jack at @thejackgregsonshow
  • Follow Nora at @norassic_park
  • Follow Charlie at @charlievmartin (and check out her upcoming work-in-progress stand-up show, Poltergeist, at Leicester Comedy Festival!)

Find links to our Spotify playlist, the Vanity Fair list, and more here.


Join the conversation! Give us your take on the films we cover, which romcoms you think should be on the list, or your best “would do/ wouldn’t do/ have done” stories on socials or at [email protected].

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When Rom Met ComBy Jack and Nora