With the curator Zoe Whitley at Tate Modern in London. Whitley discusses the women who have inspired her, the importance of diversity in exhibition-making, and why she loves working with artists – including Lubaina Himid, who supervised her PhD, and Cathy Wilkes, whose work she is curating for the British Pavilion at the 58th Venice Biennale.

The Apollo 40 under 40 podcast is presented by Gabrielle Schwarz