The Approachable Jesus

Dude and Woman is a short bonus conversation following each full episode. Listen to the Melissa Wallentine episode "I Come From an Extraordinary Dysfunctional Family" first. 

Noticing what others don't see is a skill that not everyone has. Dude does it well, I'm still working on it, especially at cocktail parties. We go into depth what it's like for us to attend both mixers and banquets.  In one setting, I'm shy, withdrawn, uncomfortable, and can't wait to leave.  In the other, I shine and get everyone around me laughing.  

 I also share how Dude still has to clean up after me like a toddler. 

The Approachable Jesus is a Times of Faith production.  Opinions expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official stance of the podcast. 

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Melissa Wallentine's parents were each married five times. Her dad moved the family 37 times in 11 years. This upbringing is how Melissa developed a superpower of noticing when others are in need, whether it's as a professor, a neighbor, Stake Relief Society president, or a mother. By the time others discover someone needs help, Melissa is already there. 

Heather and Melissa talk about how Mary at the wedding in Cana, who saw the wine running out before the wedding planner did, might have also drawn upon her childhood experiences to notice needs before others did. 

The Approachable Jesus is a Times of Faith production.  Opinions expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official stance of the podcast. 

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Dude and Woman is a short bonus conversation following each full episode. Listen to the Diana Lacey episode first. 

Two doctors told me I wasn't pregnant. I believed them instead of my own body.

That came up after talking with Diana about the fifth baby she nearly delivered at home — and the sister who recognized labor faster than she did. It got Dude and me talking about how often we ignore the truth right in front of us, or tell the truth and have no one believe us anyway. 

We also talk about how Dude caught his boss embezzling. 

The Approachable Jesus is a Times of Faith production.  Opinions expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official stance of the podcast. 

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Heather is joined by her bosom friend, Diana Lacey to talk about what it's like to be a midwife, especially when you have to deliver difficult news. Being a midwife of truth can be painful for both the messenger and the receiver. 

Heather and Diana talk about Mary, the women at the tomb, and others whose news wasn't believed. Diana also shares three R's that she learned the hard way: recognize, respond, and recover. She shares her journey of learning what spiritual abuse looks like and how she found her path to healing.

The Approachable Jesus is a Times of Faith production.  Opinions expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official stance of the podcast. 

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Dude and Woman is a short bonus conversation following each full episode. Listen to the Liahni Chandler episode first. 

Every morning, Liahni thanks two people by name. Neither of them is alive to hear it.
That's what was on my mind after talking with Liahni about receiving both a liver and a kidney from donors she never met. It got me thinking about Dude, who was electrocuted at eleven, died, and came back, and I asked him if he'd ever felt like he'd been handed a second chance. Mostly he just feels like a normal guy, he said — until every now and then, he's reminded of how lucky he is to be alive.

We also bond over the pain of completing timed ditto sheets. 

The Approachable Jesus is a Times of Faith production.  Opinions expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official stance of the podcast. 

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Liahni Chandler is an executive management professional and a two-time recipient of the gift of life — a liver and a kidney. The transplants changed her career path: she left the corporate world and eventually landed at the Ronald McDonald House. She says it taught her to understand the word "savior" a lot better these days.

Heather and Liahni talk about Mary and Martha, and what it looks like to balance service with sitting at the feet of the Savior to learn. They also talk about what it was like to grow up in a community where your church congregation was your family. They also discuss how service can look different in a variety of ways, even if it's anonymously dropping off a turkey at someone's door. 

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The Approachable Jesus is a Times of Faith production.  Opinions expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official stance of the podcast. 

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Dude and Woman is a short bonus conversation following each full episode. Listen to the McArthur Krishna episode first. 

Would an accountant think it makes financial sense for a company to pay for an employee's personal growth? 

That was the question I had for Dude who is a CFO and always watching the books. If it makes sense for a company to invest in an employee, why don't families invest in the mother's personal development? 

Dude and I discuss what boundaries we have with each other so that each of us can take personal time to rejuvenate and grow.

We also discuss what combination makes for a horrible root beef float. 

The Approachable Jesus is a Times of Faith production.  Opinions expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official stance of the podcast. 

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 MacArthur Krishna married at 37 and gave birth to just one of her three daughters. She built a career as a river guide, window washer, forest service archaeologist, and businesswoman before she ever published a book — seventeen of them, so far. Six months ago, a professor called out of nowhere and invited her back to graduate school in a city she'd never considered; she packed up her family and went. MacArthur calls herself a shapeshifter, and she really is, she's shaping the world we all live in.

 Heather and MacArthur talk about the women who anointed Jesus and how each of their unique offering was acceptable to Him. They also talk about a woman's overwhelming encounter with Heavenly Mother's love in a Walmart pharmacy aisle, and MacArthur's own rule for growing a soul: Google what you can, then ask your heavenly parents for the rest.

You can learn more about McArthur at her website: https://mcarthurkrishna.com/
Books mentioned in this podcast episode:
A Girl's Guide to Heavenly Mother
A Boy's Guide to Heavenly Mother
Changemakers: Women Who Boldly Built Zion
Mother in Heaven: A Gospel Topics Essay Study Guide
Cherish
Cherish 2: The Love of our Mother in Heaven
All are available on Amazon. 

The Approachable Jesus is a Times of Faith production.  Opinions expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official stance of the podcast. 

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Original Music by Johnathan B. Pack

Dude and Woman is a short bonus conversation following each full episode. Listen to the Terri Petersen episode first. 

Being covered in clay isn't really protection. It's more like being told you're not worth uncovering.

That's what stuck with me after talking with Terri Petersen about a 700-year-old golden Buddha hidden under clay to keep it safe from thieves.  I cling to the clay because I'm afraid of what it buries—a bad review I can't stop replaying, a compliment I toss out because it can't be true, the imposter syndrome I put on myself.

I remind Dude of something he told me years ago that I've never forgotten: I wish you would see yourself the way I see you.

We also end up deciding we are splotchy golden Buddhas.

The Approachable Jesus is a Times of Faith production.  Opinions expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official stance of the podcast. 

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Original Music by Johnathan B. Pack

Terri is a yoga instructor, a personal trainer for over 40 years, and a docent at the Museum of the Bible — and now calls herself a Buddhist Mormon. She spent her twenties and thirties following a script: BYU, marriage in the temple, five kids, stay-at-home mom. She calls it outsourcing her life choices. 

Heather and Terri talk about the woman at the well, and how fixating on her marital history buries the real story of who Jesus reaches out to. They also talk about the golden Buddha of Thailand — a statue covered in clay for 700 years to protect it — and what it means to find our own gold hiding underneath the clay.

Listen to Terri on the Latter-day Faith podcast: https://www.latterdayfaith.org/category/podcasts/
Follow Latter-day Faith on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/latterdayfaith24/

The Approachable Jesus is a Times of Faith production.  Opinions expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official stance of the podcast. 

Visit the website: www.timesoffaith.com
Get your free Bible translation guide: times-of-faith.kit.com/free-bible-guide
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Original Music by Johnathan B. Pack