According to this week’s episode, this show is “where it’s at!”

For the past several years, Dean Haglund, Phil Leirness, and Jon Lawlor have been getting together almost weekly to hold each other’s feet to the fire in the pursuit of creating art that is filled with life, while also learning how to live more artfully. Now, Chillpak Hollywood Presents … “The Art Life” as a regular podcast!

This week’s topics include …

*Celebrating “baby steps”

*A secret shopping mall apartment built by eight young artists in Providence, Rhode Island

*Getting a job by being good at getting attention instead of being good at the job and the advice to “be so good they can’t ignore you”

*The need to eliminate ideas of “good or bad” and “like or dislike” from discussions of creative works, with a particular focus paid to the film If I Had Legs I’d Kick You

*Separating the art from the artist, when it comes to “controversial” (or worse) behavior on the part of the artist (inspired by the current stories surrounding Marty Supreme director Josh Safdie)

*Dean gives Phil advice on how to prepare for a live storytelling show

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