The gentlemen continue their ruminations on what should be in a modern, arts-focused “Declaration of Independence” (a manifesto, if you will) …

For the past several years, Dean Haglund, Phil Leirness, and Jon Lawlor have been getting together almost weekly to hold each other’s feet to the fire in the pursuit of creating art that is filled with life, while also learning how to live more artfully. Now, Chillpak Hollywood Presents … “The Art Life” as a regular podcast!

This week’s specific topics include …

*The significance of March the 4th

*Purpose vs. Objective or Goal

*Striving vs. Achieving

*Being yourself and having the courage to be vulnerable whether in a one on one conversation, or giving a one on 300 presentation

Chillpak Hollywood Presents ... is a listener-supported publication. To receive new shows and support our work, please consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.

This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deanandphil.substack.com/subscribe