For the past several years, Dean Haglund, Phil Leirness, and Jon Lawlor have been getting together almost weekly to hold each other’s feet to the fire in the pursuit of creating art that is filled with life, while also learning how to live more artfully. Now, Chillpak Hollywood Presents … “The Art Life” as a regular podcast!

Of late, the gentlemen have been ruminating on what should be in a modern, arts-focused “Declaration of Independence” (a manifesto, if you will). Pertaining to that ongoing discussion, there is much conversation this week about “purpose” as differentiated from “goal” or “objective” of engaging in any work, let alone creative work.

Other topics include …

*Violence perpetrated against Waymos and the people who ride in them

*The brilliance of Hal Ashby and Bound for Glory

*Parallels between Paul Thomas Anderson and Hal Ashby

*Bud Cort and a movie about the Great Depression in Western Canada

*The importance of fun and the power of whimsy

*A particularly vivid and resonant dream

*Gratitude

*The sacred role of witnessing

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