In this episode, Adele and Keith dive into the messy, very human reality of difficult conversations. Drawing on their own challenging discussions as a live case study, they explore how disagreement, when approached with honesty, respect, and curiosity, can strengthen relationships and practice, whether between these co-authors, staff teams, or teachers and parents.

Hosted by Adele Bates

Guest: Keith Bates

Recorded via Riverside

Music by Pocketbeats Music, @pocketsbeatsmusic on Instagram

Production Support by Susan Outlaw

Operational Support by Hannah John