In this debut episode of "In Other Words," host Charlotte Burns (senior editor, Art Agency, Partners) welcomes Tom Sachs (artist) and Amy Cappellazzo (Co-Founder, Art Agency, Partners; Chair, Sotheby's) as they examine the relationship between art and brands, both in Tom's work and in culture at large. The frank and far-reaching conversation touches on everything from which brands Tom has used in his work, the importance of humiliation and the best art they've seen lately.

"In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by Audiation.fm.