It's the second NeoGAF special with Tavis McCallum, Daniel Lam, and the returning guest, Richard Knight. We do a double take from Tavis's programming experience and Daniel's art expertise with a lot of reminiscing about their days of working at Backbone Vancouver to revealing their current work. The news of layoffs is disheartening for Vancouver, so we talk about how to prepare for them and getting back into the industry.