John interviews David Graham, appointed staff writer at the Atlantic on all things politics. David also happens to be the first person who ever published one of John's journalistic pieces. Since then, the two have remained in close contact as friends and colleagues. David spends everyday covering politics for the Atlantic so the two talk about what it's like to write about Trump in an objective style. More specifically, they compare the public conceptions of Trump and the impeachment that they've witnessed in their separate worlds: inside and outside of prison.