Welcome to a very chill, but naturally, insight-packed Summer edition of the pod. All the things you need to know to look your best for the rest of this delightful season.

We’re talking about the dreaded back hump. But also: travel resets, body rituals, and the beauty of showing up for yourself—inside and out.

In this episode, we trade stories from Cannes and camp drop-off, revisit old marriage wounds (and why they still surprise us), and dive into the summer rituals keeping us sane: lemon balm tea, Ayurvedic oiling, Garshana gloves, lymphatic drainage, and one surprisingly effective foam roller routine for that dread dowager hump.

Light, packed and easy listening. Let us know what you think!

Inside Cannes & SxSW London

02:20 — Kirsten recaps Cannes Lions, judging Young Lions, and sweating through high-glam brand activations. Pattern-on-pattern included.

June whiplash

05:00 — After Cannes and SXSW London comes the reentry: graduations, family, and the weird calm of being back home.

Empty nesting, round one

07:00 — Jenny drops the kids at camp and returns to a kid-free house… only to get into a massive fight with her husband. Classic.

Couples therapy & trauma loops

10:30 — Even after 22+ years and doing the work, stuff resurfaces. We unpack how trauma rewires relationships and what repair really looks like.

Lemon balm is the new lemon water

12:00 — Why this adaptogenic tea is the sleeper hit of the summer: calming, anti-aging, and ideal iced or hot.

Garshana gloves & lymphs

17:00 — Jenny's summer staple: raw silk gloves that detox, exfoliate, and energize. Yes, they look like Mickey Mouse hands.

The abhyanga breakdown

23:00 — Ayurvedic body oiling 101. How to prep, layer, and towel-dance your way to firmer, glowier skin.

Cleanse season

26:30 — We get into Owl, Moon Juice, and the once-a-year reset that makes you clearer… but slightly meaner.

Aloe x lemon balm ice cubes = Sunburn cure

33:00 — DIY skin-repair ritual with aloe, lemon balm tea, and an ice cube tray. Seriously magic for sun recovery.

Foam roll your hump away

35:00 — That weird bump at the base of your neck? It has a name. And a cure. Welcome to the anti-hump era.

Sunscreen lineup (and spray debate)

40:00 — Suntegrity, St. Jane, Basque, and HelioCare. Plus why the spray vs stick vs supplement thing actually matters.

Agua fresca for your skin barrier

43:00 — Turns out watermelon, lime, and electrolytes might help keep melasma at bay. Sip accordingly.

Summer skincare swaps

46:00 — Jenny’s lighter, brighter summer stack—from mandelic acid to green tea enzyme wash to snail mucin serum.

LA ocean paranoia is real

51:00 — Should we still be swimming post-wildfires? We’re not sure. But we are definitely lake-pilled.

Lake rituals that boost your glow

53:00 — Minerals, cold water, lymph movement, mood. Yes to lake swims. Yes to lemon balm after.

Rapid fire: dowager’s hump and highest vibes

55:00 —Our word of the week, summer tip (hint: it’s lymph), and a big yes to lake life + body rituals.

Good to know

PRODUCTS MENTIONED

RELATED

Eat these foods for great skin

Stop shaming the sun. A better approach to sun care

The ugly truth about lasers: They make your melasma worse.

ABOUT

Our music is by the artist Fabian Küpper.  Learn more about his work and enjoy his soul-soothing handpan music on his website 

Connect with Kirsten’s company IN GOOD CO | Website I Substack I Insta I LinkedIn

Explore Jenny & Kirsten’s award-winning skincare brand, BeautyGrass I Website I Substack I Insta | TikTok 

Visiting LA? Treat yourself to a facial with Jenny at Saving Faces: Website | Insta 

The LitWithin podcast team is: Jenny Evans, Kirsten Ludwig, Chris Danton, and Christina Hempstead

This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit beautygrass.substack.com