In this episode of the 0g Podcast, Jax sits down with Jason Brink, co-founder and CEO of Datagram, to unpack why Datagram is the DePIN for DePINs. From launching nodes to replacing AWS, Jason shares how Datagram enables real-world utility, scalability, and cost efficiency for decentralized compute, AI, and physical infrastructure networks.

Whether you're building a Helium competitor, a decentralized AI protocol, or a new messaging layer — Datagram handles the complex node orchestration, routing, and onchain verification so you can focus on your actual product. Jason also shares insights from the largest node sale ever ($870M), his time at Gala Games, and what makes Datagram one of the few D-PINs with actual usage today.

📌 Chapters:

00:00 – What is Datagram?

01:08 – Why D-PINs need real infra, not vaporware

03:33 – Lessons from the $870M Gala node sale

05:14 – Example: Building “JaxPin” on Datagram

07:57 – Vertical agnosticism & edge device support

09:02 – How Datagram’s substrate was built

11:03 – Helping existing D-PINs scale

12:12 – Latency vs. resiliency in decentralized infra

14:08 – Privacy, anti-fragility & WhatsApp stories

17:10 – Ads in LLMs & affiliate models

18:27 – Running LLMs & decentralized AI on Datagram

20:10 – How developers can use the network

21:37 – Upcoming milestones: Node Sale, GPU, TGE

23:03 – Where to find Jason & Datagram online

About 0G:

0G (ZeroGravity) is the first decentralized AI operating system, designed to bring AI onchain at an unprecedented scale. By enabling nearly infinite scalability for decentralized AI, 0G ensures trustless, verifiable, and high-performance data storage solutions for AI models. Their architecture supports 50 Gbps data throughput, positioning 0G as a leader in the decentralized AI space, with partnerships across Web3’s top ecosystems including Polygon, Arbitrum, and more.

0G’s infrastructure not only boosts performance and scalability but also dramatically lowers costs, making it ideal for onchain AI applications, DeFi protocols, gaming, and beyond. This episode is essential for anyone passionate about the future of AI, blockchain, and decentralized technologies reshaping the digital landscape.

Connect with 0G:

Website: https://0g.ai/

Twitter: https://x.com/0G_labs

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/0g-labs

Connect with Today’s Guest:

Website: datagram.network

Twitter: x.com/BitBenderBrink

Company Twitter: x.com/dgramnetwork

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